What do you think the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, will mean for you in the coming years?

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

In our very informed Valley, most understand this issue well...!!!

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

No, not kidding. See the results above and the results of the recent election. We vote for the proven candidates, not the imbeciles...

lonedog3 3 months, 3 weeks ago

first question before treatment the doctors must ask--Do you or anyone in the home have guns! then you get to allow the government access to your bank accounts. Anyone that thinks any different needs to sit and actually read the highlights of all the wonderful things. And if you think it will get you better medical care I have a waterfront property to sell you in Death Valley!! People are so gullible and blind!

SorenK 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I know Obamacare will end access to medical care as we know it, but I'm still interested in your Death Valley property...there's some beautiful waterfronts in DV; oh wait, those were mirages, just like affordable health care from the federal government...

mokidugway 3 months, 3 weeks ago

There is waterfront in Death Valley.

http://parkerlab.bio.uci.edu/pictures/photography%20pictures/Saline%20lake,%20Saline%20Valley.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Death_Valley_Saratoga_Spring_2.jpg

SorenK 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the correction; I love DV, been there many times

novarama 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I think it will mean that more people are covered, which wasn't a choice, but that is something that makes me happy. I have insurance through my work and I know that the costs I pay every year increase. How Obamacare will effect my insurance costs/coverage remains to be seen. I do, however, feel grateful and fortunate to have said coverage. I talk to people on a daily basis that need healthcare services and are without insurance.

SorenK 3 months, 3 weeks ago

In the old days, when doctors made house calls, no one had insurance and medical care was affordable...employer provided medical insurance pushed up the cost of care...now imagine health care provided by the federal government to everyone...you think the cost will come down? Look at what happened to college tuitions as the number of students receiving aid increased...now the middle class can't afford college...next we won't be able to afford medical care...thanks progressives, for nothing

Em 3 months, 3 weeks ago

in the old days ... the only thing that kept many from receiving free care was pride ... there were clinics and many doctors forgot to bill (those doctors drove a Buick instead of a Cadillac) ... i also remember when, if you were working dental care was affordable, but when we first were able to get dental insurance - not saying all did, but our dentist? we were still billed the old amount on top of the very generous amount the insurance carrier paid him ... that must have been back in the early 70s ... but greed lurks in the system on every hand - i am not saying that hard working health care workers don't deserve good compensation ... for instance, i think that an overworked RN should anticipate receiving a wage that allows him or her to eventually own a home and hire someone to mow the lawn and fix the plumbing - those folks are often sleep deprived with weeds in the yard and a leak under the sink ... it's not easy these days

jacksmom 3 months, 3 weeks ago

the problem with all of this is no one knows how obama care works or who's going to be affected. i work with medicare all the time and i don't know i just have to assure seniors that it won't have any affect on THEM. as far as how it will affect me...i don't know. everyone complaining about obamacare but no one knows how it will work or how it will affect THEM! it has obama's name on it so it is BAD! how narrowminded the people here are.

wonderstar 3 months, 3 weeks ago

As soon as it was ruled constitutional, my premiums went up the next month! Can't wait to see what happens when it all takes effect.

maxpress 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"the problem with all of this is no one knows how obama care works or who's going to be affected"

Is that not the whole dilema? They do not understand what they are voting through and we do not know how it will effect us . It is not the narrow mindedness of whos name is on it. It is the fact that we are supposed to smile about 'it' with not having the fogiest Idea of what 'it' is. I have read read what is put oit and it is such a jumble that I cannot make heads or tails of it.

Em 3 months, 3 weeks ago

jacksmom, your point that no one knows how obama care works is well taken , but if you were responding to my observation - not sure you were - my thoughts were more along the line that the whole system has been going downhill through several administrations - hope we'll be surprised and things will be better all around, but for me, after some 40 years' observation, an improvement will be just that - a welcome surprise

maxpress 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I am curious to how 'Affordable health care act' came about? I do not see someone going through hard times and being thrown in prison by the IRS for feeding there children with their last $70 instead of giving it to big brother as being affordable.

antzrus 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"As soon as it was ruled constitutional, my premiums went up the next month!"

Well, of course. Your private insurance company will attempt to wring as much as they can out of you before there are federally mandated pools where you can get the same coverage cheaper when ObamaCare is instituted.

At least that's what has been mandated. However, until it all actually happens is anyone's guess as to if it will really work out. Yes, it will change our system of public health care. Change is hard on folks. And, anything new (especially government) has bugs to work out.

No, I don't believe death panels will decree death to anyone over 29...

lonedog3 3 months, 3 weeks ago

'Affordable health care act' For who? the working people that pay for this through taxes or those that collect free rides?

kyook 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Obamacare is a misnomer. Obama couldn't care less whether you or I have affordable healthcare. Obamacare is designed to give free stuff to low information voters (those who don't know the difference between a debt & a deficit & couldn't find Benghazi on a map if their lives depended on it) in order to build a class of people dependent on the government.

Give away enough free stuff (Obama phones & free healthcare, etc) and they assure the progressive democrats a voting block for years to come.

Provide lifes essentials (shelter: Frank-Dodd, healthcare: Obamacare, food: wildly expanding food stamp recipient roles) and you essentially create a dependent class who will vote for your party forever lest the supply of free stuff should dry up.

What's next, Obamafood? Wait...Michelle's already working on that, wot?

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Obama has no clue on how the economy works or how to lead. Obamacare cuts $730 BILLION from Medicare and people think Medicare is going to be hunky dory....Of course who ever voted for the loser is in low information central....

alex39 3 months, 3 weeks ago

But then there's this: Top 5 things to know about the Affordable Care Act (ACA) if you have Medicare:

1.You get more preventive services, for less. Medicare now covers certain preventive services, like mammograms or colonoscopies, without charging you for the Part B coinsurance or deductible. You also can get a free yearly "Wellness" visit. 2.You can save money on brand-name drugs. If you’re in the donut hole, you'll also get a 50% discount when buying Part D-covered brand-name prescription drugs. The discount is applied automatically at the counter of your pharmacy—you don’t have to do anything to get it. The donut hole will be closed completely by 2020. 3.Your doctor gets more support. With new initiatives to support care coordination, your doctor may get additional resources to make sure that your treatments are consistent. 4.Your Medicare coverage is protected. Under the ACA, your existing Medicare-covered benefits won’t be reduced or taken away. You also will continue to be able to choose your own doctor. 5.The ACA ensures the protection of Medicare for years to come. The life of the Medicare Trust fund will be extended to at least 2029—a 12-year extension due to reductions in waste, fraud and abuse, and Medicare costs, which will provide you with future savings on your premiums and coinsurance. But, hey, why read the facts when you can just voice your opinion and rant...?

kyook 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Funny...you didn't cite the source for your "facts". For all we know they could be copied and pasted from the regime's taliking points and could be horribly biased. Are these "facts" presented by someone who is unbiased and critical or by just another lemming with an agenda? It might make a difference, ya know.

Hmmmm?

alex39 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Kyook, Details are not difficlt to find and certify...try doing some research first then complaining...Oh, wait, Taxguru cites no source and rants, but, his ignorance agrees with you, so you see no need to ask him for his sources. Ah, how wonderful it is to read that with which we share a prejudice. Oh, by the way, Affordable Healthcare Act being called ObamaCare is the funnyiest misnomer of all. You folks really need to broaden your reading...a better name for the act would be Romney Care. It's a plan, written by GOP think-tankers in co-hort with the insurance industry and passed into law in Mass. There are a few minor differences, here's my favorite: Romney care didn't demand that insurance companies prove that 85% of the premium prices be spent on providing healthcare to the insured. The Affordable Care Act does just that. (sorry, that probably means fewer Yachts for insurance CEO's). That's got to mean that the Affordable Care Act is critically insensitive to the care and feeding of Healthcare Insurance Executives...damned those Democrats!.

kyook 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Ahh...just as I thought, no citation just more biased talking points.

As I said earlier, Obamacare is a misnomer as is Affordable Care Act. With a debt of $16 trillion and growing, a goodly portion of it attributable to the currrent occupant, can this country really afford this massive government takeover of free enterprise? Damn those 1%ers!

Can't wait for the Gun Control Act to be rammed thru congress, maybe this time they'll read it before they pass it.

Funniest of all is, ..."a better name for the act would be Romney Care." So when it all goes south and turns out to be just another scheme to spread the wealth around we'll have someone besides Obama to blame it on.

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

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alex39 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Kyook, Seriously do you not really and honestly know that this is 90% (one source, highly slanted tho say 95%) the health care law Romney passed as Gov. of Mass? Wow, how did you miss that fact? You are 100% accurate it is a misnomer...it is in fact RomneyCare on a national scale. Even Romney himself, in several interviews with the slanted media acknowldges the similarity but says his was different because it was only at the State level...Duh.

kyook 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yes, I am familiar with Romneycare so you needn't belabor the point. I am also informed enough to know that our government has a long history of lying to us unashamedly. So, pardon me if I am highly skeptical of anything that comes out of D.C.. If Obama says it's great, it probably isn't.

JimboBear 3 months, 3 weeks ago

The truly sad part of all this is the poor misguided 13+ percent of respondents to this poll who actually believe they are going to get more for less cost because of this or any other government plan. Good Luck, to you and if you see the Tooth Fairy out there where you are please remind her that I'm still waiting for her visit.

lonedog3 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I think the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny went away together on a cruise to never never land to seek out the great pumpkin Jimbo.

JimboBear 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yep! I hope they clean up after Toto though.

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Great piece on Breitbart on how Obamacare will be gamed and the system will collapse.....It is the exact method I had planned to implement already.

Starting next year, you can wait until you’re sick to purchase health insurance. And if you do so, you cannot be denied or even charged a higher premium price. Because the ObamaCare penalty to be uninsured is much cheaper than purchasing insurance, why not do exactly that?

As I laid out in this piece, because ObamaCare allows me to game the system in this way, for the first time in over 25 years, I'm an uninsured-American. Going forward, my plan is to pay the annual penalty, which is ridiculously cheaper than insurance, and only purchase health insurance should I get sick.

As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare -- that there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than there was before ObamaCare passed -- that's how the system crashes.

For obvious reasons, neither the White House nor the media wants this information to become well known. They’re too invested in ObamaCare being part of the reason Obama's put on Mt. Rushmore. But it's bad law, Americans are not dumb, and I cannot think of anything more patriotic than to use civil disobedience as a way to bring the whole thing down. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/01/25/Politifact-Ignores-Primary-Reason-Obama-Might-Crash

Peggy 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Wow. You use Breitbart as an expert... Amazing.

Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

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Taxguru 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You use NOTHING....Amazing!!!

maxpress 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Last year statewide the heath providers went through massive layoffs and new partnerships just to stay open. Reading what I have it seems to be cut, cut, cut from a sevice that is barely in the black as it is. 2.2billion will be cut right out of the state budget. Maybe the focus should be 'are we going to have any providers left after this passes'? All the insuance is worthless with no services.

Em 3 months, 3 weeks ago

maxpress, i think you are seriously close to the truth ... and, once again, corporations will go offshore to find workers, bring them in to provide the service, which will work just as long as those workers' American dollars can be sent home where their purchasing power is greater ... i'm a little dizzy from the spiral

maxpress 3 months, 3 weeks ago

It could be also that if hospitals fail then something like a government VA will be set up in its place.

antzrus 3 months, 3 weeks ago

As a provider of health care, I have witnessed with the advent of "managed care" back in the '90's the insurance companies cutting their funding to providers about 30-50% depending upon the providers specialty. Their profits have increased substantially since.

They also put severe limits on any mental health care. They push pills for such treatment with severely limiting any 1:1 contact because it is much cheaper.

The lack of available and/or affordable mental health treatment owes its legacy to private insurance companies.

The Demorats and now ObamaCare have been pushing for years to make mental health treatment equal in value and treatment options to normal health care once again.

Mental health care-now why would that be important to the health of you, your family and our nation?

kyook 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"Mental health care-now why would that be important to the health of you, your family and our nation?"

Because it might keep us from accepting the social engineering of the left like a bunch of lemmings?

Because it might help keep our constitutional rights intact?

Because it might help us stay off mind control drugs like Prozac?

Because it might help us know when we are being manipulated by the government and their bedfellows in the media?

Because it might help us understand that there is truth in the addage that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

I could go on and on......

antzrus 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Well, maybe mental health care because of the rash of suicides recently (and in the past) here in NCW and all the noise the gun addicts are making about mentally ill folks causing their their assault rifles to have a bad name, and maybe appropriate mental health care rather than meds like Prozac being thrown at the masses to save the extra profits for the insurance companies, and etc. etc.

dryside 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I think there are going to be a lot of mad unhappy people out there when they have to go out an buy their own health insurance. If an employer doesn't have 50 employees, they don't have to provide insurance. Less than 30 hr. per week, they don't have to provide it. BUT You still have to have it.

lonedog3 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I think there will be even more sad and unhappy people out there when they find out the truth behind Obama care and what it really does to our medical care.

antzrus 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"I think there will be even more sad and unhappy people out there when they find out the truth behind Obama care and what it really does to our medical care."

Let's just face it. I think that between the gays, a woman owning her own uterus, semi and/or automatic weapons in civilian hands, the 47%, a reboot of medical coverage and anything else that that black dude stands for is totally destroying your country.

"Your" (angry, old-if not chronologically then developmentally, white guys) might be the key word here.

antzrus 3 months, 3 weeks ago

The world is constantly changing. As Dr Phil (what a dork) would say: "Get over it!"

sourtellinme 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I'll let you know in 2014. If there will be affordable health care available,then I'm all for it. As a 51yr old,selfemployed,with a pre-existing condition,male,I don't have that affordable option now. I'm on a bill me plan now. Spend about 3k a year on preventative care. If I can't get some form of insurance that I can afford,let me thank all of you now for keeping up on your ever increasing premiums. Because if something major happens to me before then, your footing the bill and if I'm stiil around,I"ll pay what I can monthly and wait for something to happen again and again.... So if there is a better or even just one other option out there,I would love to hear it for mine and your sake.

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