The Democrats are in Trouble
Blog: Werner Janssen's blog
August 16, 2010
I’ll go on the record and say that the Democratic Party is in real trouble. After all, many people in our great country are unhappy. People are reluctant to accept China’s taking the number one spot in many of the world categories. Some people can’t deal with the fact that the white or Caucasian ethnic segment of our society may soon become the minority. People are angry that some within our borders won’t speak English. It is difficult for people to accept that manufacturing jobs, once dominant in our economy, have moved to countries where employees spend twelve hours a day laboring and receiving a day’s wage that is less than our hourly wage.
But, I’ll go even one step further in my predictions. I say It is not just the Democrats who are in trouble. It is also the Republicans, as well as the Independents together with the tea party crowd.
Part of the Republican Party’s problem is they are more interested in regaining power than working within the principle of a Republic form for governing to help solve some of the country’s current difficulties. This disconnect doesn’t appear to be based on ideological convictions but rather to me at least, it appears to be their preoccupation with bringing down the Obama administration.
I fear that the Republican Party is losing its ideological convictions and only concentrating on defeating the Democrats. Neither political party is perfect, but the Republican Party is approaching perfection in its ability to stop reasonable progress by controlling the conversation on cable networks through deceptive statements and at times readjusting history. Somehow we need to again get our elected servants working for what is best for “we the people”.
Fortunately, we can point to many positive issues. We are approaching a 90% employment level. The stock market is gaining ground. The American Auto industry is on its way back. The Airline system has new regulations promoting greater safety. Commercial Airlines are beginning to show profits. The banking world has regulations to control its greed. Pre-existing medical conditions will never again eliminate insurance coverage for a segment of our society. All of this has happened while the Republicans have been out to make a mockery of our legislative system.
Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to celebrate political freedom within its membership by voting their ideology and conscience. Democracy could be more effective if we could get our major parties to forgive, shake hands and again work for our common good. At one point in history, exciting ideological debates occurred that guided legislative accomplishments.
Now, however, I fear that economic concerns, along with religious and ethnic tensions, are driving the political agenda and causing even moderate voters to make dangerous decisions that challenge our democracy.
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joanne 1 year, 5 months ago
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Good one, Werner. Well done.
KC 1 year, 5 months ago
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Sadly you are still out of touch. Voting your conscience at the expense of your country is wrong. The Democrats are not in touch with the people. The republican don't fair much better). The people want accountability. They want a president who doesn't spit in the face of the country. Who doesn't stomp on the memory of its fallen citizens. You are nothing more that Harriet's puppet. I liked you better when you sold ice cream.
Gator 1 year, 5 months ago
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What is the point of printing this meaningless drivel that does nothing more than give liberals that "warm fuzzy" feeling? .
lonedog3 1 year, 5 months ago
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ten reasons why people vote Democrat.
I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the goverment taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% is okay.
I voted Democrat because I believe the goverment will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would
I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
I voted Democrat because I am way to irresponsible to own a gun and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.
I voted Democrat beacuse I beleive that people that cannot tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in 10 years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I voted Democrat beacuse i'm not concerned with the slaughter of millions of babies through abortion as long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I voted Democrat beacuse I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education and social security beneifits.
I voted Democrat beacuse I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the goverment for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.
I voted Democrat because I believe that liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.
I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted where the sun doesn't shine that it is unlikely that I will ever have another point of view.
This is it in a nutshell! Sad but you can watch any news station, read any newspaper and it is all there. Sorry in advance if I stepped on any toes but the Democrats have done this to themselves.
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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This loon said "We are approaching a 90% employment level". This has to be the dumbest and most uninformed comment ever made!!! Is there anyone out there that has a heartbeat and is breathing that thinks we are at 90% employment??? This guy should be in an asylum.... . This from the Huffington Post today (and they ain't conservative as you can see from the goofy remark in the first sentence). Here are some additional truths about our economy, over and above the sad income inequality truths that now hang over our nation like a plague:
The real unemployment rate is 18.3%, not the 9.5% official rate the administration uses.
The number of real unemployed workers in all four categories of unemployment is 29.3 million, not the administration's one-category-only figure of 14.6 million.
Since the start of the Obama administration, the number of real unemployed workers has increased by 4.6 million. By contrast, the economy needs to add around 150,000 new jobs each month simply to keep up with population growth.
In real terms the all-important "jobs gap" is 21.3 million new jobs.
The average number of weeks unemployed is at least 34.2, and the number of workers unemployed a half year or longer is at least 10.1 million.
Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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"This loon ...This has to be the dumbest and most uninformed comment ever made!!! Is there anyone out there that has a heartbeat and is breathing that thinks...This guy should be in an asylum.... goofy remark " . If you believe that reliance on this sort of language strengthens your arguments, Art, you are mistaken. .
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Another awesome post Joe!!!. You maybe could add: . I vote Democrat because I believe that the Rich getting Richer is a travesty of justice and is the reason I am being held down, so they should be forced to give all of us with less earning potential some of their cash. This will bring everyone up and create utopia....
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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I don't need to strengthen my arguments against you Norm. Your grasp of economics and finances is less then my third grader.....
1 year, 5 months ago
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Boy I'm glad I am neither Demorcrat or Republican. Actually Joe, I believe your #1 reason applies to both parties, as do a least one other of your points. I do like #6 though, got a chuckle out of it.
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Come on Dems, where's your top ten? I like a good laugh.
Gator 1 year, 5 months ago
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How did Art's comments lessen his arguments, Norm? Art called the comment "the dumbest and most uninformed comment ever made". Maybe an exaggeration, but a comment that lessened his argument would have been something like "Mr. Janssen's full of poop if he thinks those unemployment numbers are correct." . In other words, personal insults to the writer are detrimental to the argument, but criticizing the actual argument is what actually makes up the other side of an argument. Calling him a "loon" may have been borderline, but that is certainly not a "George Carlin" kind of word. . Of course, the liberal response to an argument using personal insults, including the liberal catch-all term of "bigot", seems to be perfectly fine... .
Gator 1 year, 5 months ago
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BTW, Joe, I don't claim to be a "strict" republican, but that was AWESOME! .
douglas 1 year, 5 months ago
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My concern with both parties is that they're being driven so hard by their respective wings that "moderate" has become a dirty word.
Empresschrys 1 year, 5 months ago
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sigh the comments I have seen here are disheartening. No wonder most people I know have a firm policy of "I don't get involved in politics because it just causes fights and I don't want the headache." Anytime a person voices their support for either side they come off sounding like a horrible person. All Democrats and Liberals sound like whiners and PC wusses, and all Republicans and Conservatives sound like greedy, heartless SOB's.
It makes it hard for me to even summon up a small ounce of caring for either side.
psychoteacher 1 year, 5 months ago
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Here is the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans refuse to fix the problems of our country because they don't think it's their responsibility to. Democrats refuse to fix the problems of our country because if they do, they won't have anyting to whine about.
psychoteacher 1 year, 5 months ago
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Thank you Christina, you hit the nail right on the head. Add to that the fact that people have become so convinced of the selfrightousness of their dogma that they cannot see any logic in the other side of the arguement when it is presented to them. They resort to name calling and character bashing. And then we wonder why there is apathy...
Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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"The democrats are in trouble because they took a year on a health care bill, watered it down," . No. The democrats are in trouble because they gave in to so many republican demands on the health care bill that all that's left of it is another corporate welfare program. And in return for their endless compromises with republicans, they received zero votes and some of the most ridiculous vilification since Joe McCarthy. . "and then rammed it through Congress" . Wait - when you said they took a year on the health care bill, were you saying that they were moving too quickly? Otherwise, what you're saying here (with "rammed") is that they moved too slowly AND too quickly at the same time. That's right up there with the argument that Obama is an atheist-Muslim and a fascist-communist. Admit it, you just hate democrats because, well, Glenn and Rush told you to. Its obviously not based on any coherent, logical, informed argument. . "through methods that aren't usually used to pass a bill in congress." . Wrong again. The reconciliation process is not what's unusual about the 111th congress; what's unusual is the republicans' unprecedented abuse of the filibuster procedure. . "If they had passed it through the normal means a bill is to be debated and passed, that'd be fine. I'd accept that the democrats are in power, and even though I don't like the bill, it's their agenda...But when the Senate and House used special rules to pass it because they were shy of the 60 votes to pass it, that is what angered many americans and independents (the same independents that voted Obama into power)." . If you're truly angered by procedural shenanigans, then your anger is at the republicans and their abuse of the filibuster. .
Gator 1 year, 5 months ago
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Norm, What do you decide to be "unprecedented abuse of the filibuster procedure"? . It seems to me that Obamacare was about to be sidetracked after the election of Scott Brown of Mass., and therefore the Dems had to resort to what even NBC news called "questionable" reconciliation rules to skirt around the Senate. .
Resident 1 year, 5 months ago
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"rammed it through Congress through methods that aren't usually used to pass a bill in congress." . Ironic. A story on CNN showed how the method for approving the new (watered down) health care bill was used a record number of times by Bush. Were you angered then too?
Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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March 2010: "For months, Senate Democrats have made the point that Republicans are using the filibuster in an unprecedented way to block President Obama's agenda. A useful chart of Senate cloture motions through the years seems to back up this assertion.
David Waldman notes that there have been about "the same number of cloture motions between January 2009 and today as between World War I and the moon landing. It once took 50 years to get the same number of cloture votes as we've had in just over one year with this Republican minority."
John Aravosis: "What the data clearly shows it that the GOP is filibustering at twice the rate of what the Democrats did before, including what they did under Bush. So Republicans can't claim that Democrats did it too -- they didn't. Not like this." " . As for reconciliation, here's a whole page full of information debunking the myths that corporate media has fooled you into believing: http://mediamatters.org/research/201003150034 .
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Hello, McFly!?!!? Obama's approval rating is at a record low and Congress approval rating is the worst in it's history at 19%. Thank God the Republican's are filibustering everything!!! These elitist liberal progressive secular socialists numbnuts are sending our country down the toilet fast. In November the American people will take the first step in firing these scumbags!
lonedog3 1 year, 5 months ago
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the story is told in the fact that the house and senate has been controlled by the Democrats sinc 2004. They are the ones making the rules and passing the laws not the GOP. What is wrong with this country is explained fully in that fact!
Gator 1 year, 5 months ago
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Art, I very much hope you are right, but did you see the Seattle numbers for Patty Murray? And then compare that to the article today in the WW about the results by NCW county? It really is true that a candidate in this state only needs to carry King and Snohomish counties. In other words, the GOP has no chance in the liberal cesspool of the central Puget Sound. Maybe I need to move a little bit further east... .
ynkeeraidr 1 year, 5 months ago
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It seems to me that the point of the article was to say that, regardless of whomever holds the power (democrats or republicans) we have to work together to fix our problems as a nation.
noguilt 1 year, 5 months ago
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Brad, I think YOU missed the point altogether! He says pretty clearly that the Democrats need to continue vote according to ideology because their constituents are just too dumb to know how good things really are- with "employment at almost 90%, wall street recovering, the auto bailout"... And the Republicans just need to ignore their constituents and vote like the democrats. Oh, and he threw in the race card too, and support for unions. The only thing he left out was "it's Bush's fault"
1 year, 5 months ago
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BTW, it is a proven fact that 100% of all generalizations are false.
94% of all statistics are made up on the spot. :)
Annsboy 1 year, 5 months ago
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Norms comment about the health care bill got me riled up. The dems were screwed big time after scott brown was elected (in a liberal district, btw) so they snuck the biggest governments take over in recent history through by using a procedural rule. Something this important, the voters were not for it, and this is why your party is in trouble. Frankly I think we need to start over and have term limits, 10 years sounds good, severely reduce their pay, to about 100k and no retirement benefits. The founders never invisioned the kind of career politicians we have had for the past hundred years, it needs to change.
Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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"1. they snuck 2. the biggest governments take over in recent history 3. through by using a procedural rule. 4. Something this important, the voters were not for it, and this is why your party is in trouble." . 1. Snuck? Surely you jest. The attention of the entire nation was focused on the health care debate 24/7. There was no sneaking attempted nor accomplished. 2. What exactly are you claiming that government "take over"? Yes, it would have been nice if government had eliminated insurance companies by taking their place. Sadly, that didn't happen. It wasn't even on the table. The dems surrendered single payer without making any attempt whatsoever to pass it. Same with the "public option". 3. If procedural rules make you angry, then you are angry at the republicans for using a procedural rule (the filibuster), thus forcing the democrats to use another procedural rule (reconciliation) to pass legislation. If the only procedural rule that bothers you is reconciliation, then you must have been angry when the republicans passed Bush's massive tax cuts for the uber-rich. If none of these uses of procedural rules by republicans made you angry, then this is not the actual reason you are angry at democrats. You're just angry at democrats because your radio tells you to be. There is clearly no thought involved on your part. 4. You're pretty much right there. Republicans hate the democrats no matter what they do and automatically oppose anything they do; no thinking involved, just mindless obedience to the radio. People like me despise this health care bill because it is little more than more corporate welfare for insurance companies. . Oh, and as for term limits, that also makes no sense. One day is too long for a crummy legislater to serve; several decades is no problem for a good one. Term limits would do absolutely nothing to improve Congress; real campaign finance reform, instant runoff voting, and the elimination of the electoral college (for presidential elections) could improve Congress (and the presidency). .
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Norm said "then you must have been angry when the republicans passed Bush's massive tax cuts for the uber-rich". Norm, you are still spouting Liberal BS. . From the Tax Foundation: . Virtually every tax return received a tax cut as a result of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts. Even many tax returns at the very bottom of the income scale who paid no income tax to the IRS saw an increase in their refundable credit amount. That's why if one measures "benefit" in terms of the percent change in one's tax bill, low-income earners benefited the most from the tax cuts. However, if raw dollar amounts per person is what one measures, then the higher-income the person, the more benefits the tax cuts delivered. . If you can't understand what this means you should quit your non-stop marxist pandering. " if one measures "benefit" in terms of the percent change in one's tax bill, low-income earners benefited the most from the tax cuts." . http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/26315.html
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Gator, see the news on unemployment today.....!!!! As this same news continues towards November they will all be gone.
Empresschrys 1 year, 5 months ago
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Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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"Norm said "then you must have been angry when the republicans passed Bush's massive tax cuts for the uber-rich". Norm, you are still spouting Liberal BS. . From the Tax Foundation:" . You missed the point entirely, Arty. I'll break it down for you again here: JS: complains about the health care bill on the grounds that it was passed using a procedural rule. ME: Pointed out other legislation passed using that same procedural rule. YOU: Utterly clueless.
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Oh Normie are you back from your bike ride with Cooper Anderson. It must be so dis-heartening that your buddy Obama and his idiotic marxist ideals are sinking. Gee that doesn't make your opinions worth much now does it. All that Hope & Change proven a hoax like your Millard Fillmore blogs. Isn't time for you to get a job and quit blaming the rich for all your failures????
Empresschrys 1 year, 5 months ago
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To Ferd Berfel - well I responded to your question regarding whether or not I have ever taken a stance on anything controversial, but apparently my stance on political issues was too much for The World or one of the readers because my post was deleted due to "violation of the usage agreement." I have read the usage agreement and cannot tell where I may have violated it but I guess it is not for me to decide. Apparently freedom of speech is only allowed to the press...not the readers. Good luck with your debate everyone. May you all be able to part on friendly terms.
Norm 1 year, 5 months ago
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Its happened to all of us, Christina. Most of us choose to keep on posting and rarely get censored. . You're absolutely wrong to frame it as a freedom of speech issue, though. Freedom of speech refers to freedom from government censorship, not to any requirement that private property owners (like the WW on their proprietary web site here) allow anybody to use their property to say anything. . Whether or not you agree with any of WW's removal of posts, its absolutely NOT a free speech issue. . For example, you could give permission for somebody to spraypaint something on the side of your house, but nobody has the right to do so. .
Empresschrys 1 year, 5 months ago
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You are correct Norm. My attempt at cheekiness was off the mark. Thanks for the correction. :)
I am sad my original post was taken down though. I just cannot understand why. I did not post a curse word or attack anyone. I did not post anything sexual or inflammatory.
Oh well.
pruitt 1 year, 5 months ago
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Empresschrys ~
Your comment was removed because it violated the Use Policy (http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/use-policy/), specifically, "use inappropriate language (even when typographically obfuscated)". You used a swear word, even though you obfuscated it by using symbols such as #@%&, so your comment was removed. Please feel free to repost your comment, without the offensive word, and it will not be removed again.
~ Brianne Pruitt, Web editor The Wenatchee World
Empresschrys 1 year, 5 months ago
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Thank you Bonnie! I did not realize the symbols were a violation as well. I apologize for the violation.
I appreciate your clearing up my confusion and will be more mindful of how I post in the future.
lurker_berserker 1 year, 5 months ago
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JimboBear 1 year, 5 months ago
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You know, I must say that I am a bit confused here. Those symbols are used frequently in many of the comic strips that the WW and most other news papers print, and yet they are not allowed here. Can you explain that for this poor dumb country boy Ms Pruitt?
JimboBear 1 year, 5 months ago
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Perhaps I'm answering my own question here, or else I'm just deepening the confusion. Dictionary.com defines obfuscate thusly:
ob·fus·cate:
to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
to darken.
I can't really see that any of those three apply to the use of a string of symbols to indicate the use of a curse word. That's the whole point of using them . . . . . to indicate the use without offending.
I guess I just never realized that Dagwood Bumstead or Beattle Bailey had filthy mouths.
pruitt 1 year, 5 months ago
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Jim ~
The difference is cartoons are meant as entertainment, whereas the comment section is intended to be a civil conversation between community members, and use of any sort of profanity can quickly degrade that dialogue.
Our policy may seem strict, out of touch, or heavy-handed. However, this news organization strives to keep the comments section as civil as possible. As we all know, comment threads can degenerate quickly, and many people choose not to participate because of that.
We want this site to be a community gathering place, where our neighbors (past and present) can come together to discuss and debate the issues that affect us, in a civil and neighborly way. We're a small community, and engendering negative feelings doesn't accomplish much.
So, we keep a strict policy on comments, and try to enforce it as fairly and evenly as possible, in the hopes it will not become a cesspool populated by the few trolls who like to overpower everyone else.
Granted, Christina's comment was not necessarily of that nature, but if I remove someone else's comment for violating the policy, and not hers, then we aren't being fair to anyone.
I know this is a long answer to a simple question, but a good part of my job consists of moderating our comments, and I prefer people to understand the motivations behind our actions, so that they can work to keep the threads as civil as possible as well, and follow the use policy as best they can.
~ Brianne Pruitt, Web editor The Wenatchee World
JimboBear 1 year, 5 months ago
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I accept that Brianne, and with a certain amount of enthusiasm. Not sure that is the correct word, but I wholeheartedly agree with your comment on degeneration of the content, and for sure . . . that sort of thing certainly would cause many to decide against participation. That would be very self defeating with regard to encouraging everyone to express their viewpoints. Quite honestly, I see plenty of contempt and animosity here in some of the comments even though they DO fit within the peramiters of the terms of use.
I must also say that I didn't see the initial post before it was deleted, so the question of why it was deleted may not have even come to mind had I seen her comment. Your response to me has answered the question in my mind and I thank you for your answer to my somewhat tongue in cheek query..
pruitt 1 year, 5 months ago
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Jim ~
Thanks! I like to explain what it is we do and why, to keep us as transparent as possible. A big part of our job is forcing transparency on public entities, so if we don't hold ourselves to the same standard, what does that say?
In any case, we do try our best on here; it's new territory for news organizations, and we're learning as we go. So I appreciate when you guys question our motives and hold us accountable as well.
And, with that, I wish everyone a great weekend!
~ Brianne Pruitt, Web editor The Wenatchee World
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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i just want to go on the record with some real effectiveness in my family's life from are great presidents decisions! NO MORE 39.00 OVERDRAFTS. FROM ARE BANK :) AND....FINALLY GETTING TREATED FOR A DISEASE I HAVE HAD FOR EXACTLY 30 YEARS THAT PUT ME ON SSI.THE DR TOLD ME HE COULD "NOW TELL ME ABOUT A TREATMENT THAT HAS BEEN REGULARLY USED ALL THIS TIME" THANKS TO MEDICAL REFORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I AM ON MY WAY OFF SSI. THANKS YOU BARACK.
Annsboy 1 year, 5 months ago
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Norm my issue with the procedural rule was two fold. Firstly the dems said that they wouldn't use it then when they realized with the election of SB they stood no chance they "snuck" it by the only way they could. Secondly, this is not some budget issue the repubs had issue with it is a fundemental change in fact now forcing us to pay for something the governments way or no way, that I find offensive...I won't do it if I can resist it. Now the fillibuster....the founders put that in for the express reason the minority wouldn't be trammled. Obama will lose a lot of power this Nov and the Dems knew it so it was now or never, make no mistake. Socialism has failed in comparison to capitalism all over the world, the more freedom given to markets (within reason) the more the nation prospers, conversly the more socialism takes over a nation the more irrelevant they become in the world economy.
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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Martin once again you are wrong :) Washington trust does not charge overdrafts on us any more.I tested it:) This month.And only the poor got them! Taking from there food most likely as in are case.Helping to do away with the middle class! The banks could of easily stopped the debit card transaction when the $ was out,as they do with credit cards.But the profits were to appealing.Who doesn't need a submarine and two heli pads on there 130,000,000.00 boats!This $ should be spread with the rest of the companies employees.Bringing back the middle class.And as fare as med treatment always been available to me,your dead wrong!I have Ankleosingspondolitis and methotrexate has been a cure for decades.I have had the best Dr's in the valley IE Dr Bird "Both".I was told this by them,'period"And my Dr in Chelan,the best Dr i have ever had! But the 15 or so in the past from Calif.never told me either.Dud you are making it up as you go! And that doesn't make it true:)
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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capitalism is the reason for this season IE the way we prepare are foods "Recall after recall"the reason why most meds are made from petroleum base"these medicines have the same side effects" DEATH and cancer.Then recalled! then law suits ect, ect.The reason why we just let the poor die across the world,as the richer get richer, and the middle class is exterminated.Republicans remind me of Germany several decades age,brain washed to believe that the richest 5% should have 95% of the wealth! Wake up.
JimboBear 1 year, 5 months ago
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Yes! Wake up!
Whatever wealth you may possess in this life is something that you earn, not something that is passed out to all who happen to pass through..
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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what if you are retarded?
JimboBear 1 year, 5 months ago
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I don't see where that comment even deserves a response.
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
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Benny you are misguided and need to understand the facts! The Rich getting Richer brings everybody up!!! Even the LOSERS! This is the beauty of Capitalism. Anything else fails miserably. .
The Reagan expansion years marked a period of economic progress for middle class Americans. Middle class income increased 11 percent after adjustment for inflation, while nearly 20 million new jobs were created.
This paper will rely on data from the Census Bureau to analyze the income growth of the 1980s. The evidence shows that the percentage of households in the low income category declined during the 1980s, while the proportion of high income households increased. Furthermore, while the middle class shrank as a share of all households, the reason for this is upward, not downward, mobility. The percentage of households in the low income category dropped during the 1980s. This group comprised 27.5 percent of all households in 1980, 28.5 percent in 1982, and only 25.3 percent by 1989. As a share of all households, the proportion of those with low incomes became less prominent by the end of the 1980s. Meanwhile, the percentage of households with incomes over $50,000 jumped from 17.6 percent in 1980 and 1982, to 23.5 percent in 1989. This remarkable increase in the proportion of high income households is another sign of solid income growth. Notice how the strong upward mobility has affected the middle category. This group comprised 55 percent of all households in 1980, 53.8 percent in 1982, and 51.1 percent by 1989. In this one sense, the middle class did indeed shrink during the 1980s. Is this good or bad? If the middle class shrinkage had resulted from massive income losses resulting in expansion of the low income group, it would clearly signal that something was seriously wrong. However, a review of the data shows that the reverse was happening. Income gains were pushing a greater proportion of middle class households into the high income category. Of the 4 percentage point reduction in the middle class percentage between 1980 and 1989, all of it is accounted for by net upward movement into the high income category. Conclusion The proportion of middle class Americans did indeed decline, but this reflected an upward movement of households into the high income category. Meanwhile, the proportion of low income households declined, as more became middle class. The income growth of the Reagan years boosted the fortunes of Americans at all income levels.
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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thought you would say that:) The fact is we need to take care of people that cant take care of them selves like it or not.And we "should" equal out these big salaries in are country, and bring back the middle class.My dad was a forklift operator in LA and his wife did not have to work while raising five kids as this was a living wage.we never rented,and always owned a beautiful home.Can not do that now because of what the republicans have done.They let capitalize go astray with no oversight! We need to flush ALL are senators down the toilet and start with a fresh bowl:)
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
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Art man As to your childish comment about losers,those that cant take care of them selves like the mentally challenged and the disabled to be losers? Typical republicanism,thank you for proving my point:)
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
Losers means in life there are winners and losers in the economic spectrum. All one can do is work as hard as possible to become a winner. And not whine or cry about those that do win Big. Most of the time they deserve it and again they will bring the standard of living and quality of life up for the rest of us.....
artmann 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
Benny said "and bring back the middle class". Now you are getting it.....congrats on becoming a Reagan conservative!
Larry71 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
i would think you could avoid overdraft charges. by mabye only spending the money you actually have in your account?
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
Three words come to mind you guys are KOO KOO and strait up liars.WERE IS THE LINK? What a messed up country! Its people like you guys that are taking are county down with blatant lies! Again were is the link? Prove your self as you told me to!
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
And Martin thank you for proving my point! I choose to not opt in and they still paid my overdraft baby ya!
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
To me and the up and coming generation say Republicans are toast,and the lies will eventually stop.
francis 1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
If you say so:( you must be right .,and some one else is paying are overdrafts,i wish i could know who it is so i can thank them:)
1 year, 5 months ago
The Democrats are in Trouble
Overdraft fees for us sometimes occur when we do an electronic funds transfer to pay a bill on line rather than writing a check. Sometimes we simply forget to record the transfer in the checking account after we pay the bill on line and then here comes the overdraft notice in the mail several days later. We're getting better at remembering, though, and the bank has always paid the shortfall for us.
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