WENATCHEE — Ron Nielsen has been counseling small businesses as a Small Business Development Center adviser for more than two decades and has seen his share of ups and downs.

“I remember well the great recession of 2008,” he said. “We are seeing a similar pattern, albeit greatly accelerated,” he said of the current state of the economy now in the midst of the COVID-19 shutdowns.

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Ron Nielsen

He took over from Jim Fletcher at the Wenatchee SBDC office in June 2019. Part of his job is providing no-cost business counseling to startups, those that are struggling and those looking to expand. He specializes in business finance, helping with loans, answering questions about profit and loss statements, general accounting, business structure and marketing.

The Wenatchee World connected with Nielsen to find out what he is hearing from small businesses and what he expects is on the horizon.

Wenatchee World: How were things going before all this happened?

Ron Nielsen: I had 64 clients in Wenatchee all actively seeking help with business questions when it all blew up and the phone calls started.

WW: What hit first?

Nielsen: At the same time the order came to shut down and stay home, there was also work in Congress about declaring Washington a disaster area, making SBA loans available for disaster assistance. So we were working with business owners early on.

With the CARES (Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security) Act came a flood of questions about how to access funding.

WW: How did your job change through all this?

Nielsen: I had to limit my existing clients to one meeting per day. I spent the rest of the day answering phone calls, texts and emails. And we started doing webinars.

In the two-week period from mid-March to the end of March, we did 11 webinars that were attended by 500 people. Then we hit the webinar trail throughout the state.

WW: What were the webinars about?

Nielsen: We took a two-pronged approach. The first focus was on business survival — what can businesses do now to preserve cash and what opportunity is there to make money.

That was one thing learned from the last recession, tell people to protect their cash. By the time businesses came to see me, they had maxed out their credit cards and business and personal credit. By then, there was nothing I could do.

This time around, my colleague in Western Washington and I got together to get information out as early as possible about ways to reduce spending. Yes, it can hurt your credit, but you need to preserve your cash. Start negotiations immediately with people you owe money to, get deferrals on business loans. In some cases, restructure payments.

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WW: What was the second prong?

Nielsen: Step 2 was to get the most current information out about what loans are available. As always with any program, the issues are around the details.

The PPP was designed by Congress so if certain conditions are met, they would be a forgivable loan. The big question is how to make sure you get forgiveness.

Some laid-off employees were getting $600 a week extra from the CARES Act, so they were making more on unemployment than they would if they were actually working.

One of requirements of the loan forgiveness was to bring back employees at the same wage, putting employees in the awkward position of not wanting to come back. They were making more money staying home.

That created an issue for business owners who are potentially at risk of not qualifying for loan forgiveness.

WW: What other issues are small business owners dealing with?

Nielsen: The reduction in income and sales, of course. Businesses were closed by direct order of the government. That’s what makes this unique.

Usually a downturn in the economy takes a little time to develop, giving businesses time to prepare. But this was on a huge scale, all at once.

Typically, if you think about an economic wave, things are going well and then something happens that starts a decline and the economy contracts. Normally that takes weeks or months to play out. Then you hit the bottom of the recession, the trough, that can last 16 to 18 months and the recovery begins, eventually leading back to prosperity.

What makes this so unique is the sudden drop off to recession. In a matter of days things began to plummet, putting an immediate hardship on all businesses.

WW: If everything reopens, is there a shortcut to the recovery phase?

Nielsen: Some believed early on that it could return to normal as quickly as it came upon us. People are now understanding it’s going to be with us for a while.

WW: Where are we now?

Nielsen: We’re in the pre-recovery period right now. A number of businesses are weighing their options — is it worth continuing or just shut the thing down and move on. That’s a tough, stressful period for business owners and families.

In any downturn in the economy, some businesses may end up closing. But those who do survive are often in a better place. Former competitors are gone, creating an opportunity to grow. Others find new opportunities.

Nevonne McDaniels: 664-7151

mcdaniels@wenatcheeworld.com